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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:02 pm |
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yfaktor wrote: | Actually, are you sure you want to do that - buy ioncube? Nu-Coder is in beta, we expect the release before the end of the year and I promise you that PhpED customers will have a discount. |
Well, this is interesting, indeed! But I really need an encoder soon... Are you sure it will be out soon? Because I don't want to wait too long like some phped customers waiting for a new Linux version!
Is there a beta I can download somewhere? Is there a features listing? What will be the price? Any domain name linking/protection? Will it be compatible with eaccelerator?
Thanks
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Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:57 am |
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I have to agree that all the softwares I tried that you created are really great: phped, its debugger, nusoap. That's why I'm really interested by this future encoder.
But, if I understand correctly, the problem with any encoder is that it's possible to dump the opcodes to a readable format. Always. I'm not even sure what "dumping the opcodes" means but I think it means wathever protection you apply to your PHP files, it will be possible to decompile them using this technic. Of course the resulting files would have no comment, would have meaningless variable and functions name, etc. But the code will be there.
My point is that I'm now thinking about using an obfuscator rather than an encoder, since the encoder's resulting code can always be reverted to a obfuscated code by the "dumping the opcodes" technic. And obfuscators are way cheaper than encoders. There is also the fact that there is less chance, I think, that a obfuscator's resulting code conflicts with other software like eaccelerator, since it's still valid, plain, not compiled, PHP.
That said, I would be willing to pay for a really good PHP obfuscator and I'm still really curious about your encoder. Can you give us more informations?
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Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2006 5:25 am |
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I've been using Zend Guard as an encoder for my work job, but that's more of a requirement due to us using software that was already Zend Encoded and thus requiring their optimizer. Since we needed to have our own source encoded as well, we decided to go for their solution. So for me it's more a practical requirement. Although Guard both encodes & obfuscates, I have to leave out the obfuscation because part of our code is shared between multiple projects, and either i recode and re-upload everything each change, or I have to exclude all shared objects from obfuscation, neither of which is an acceptable solution for me at this point.
That being said, if your solution works and can co-operate with the one from zend (longshot, i know), I might convince my boss to buy a license too.
If the price is okay, and the license doesn't have to be renewed yearly (like the one from Guard), I'm probably gonna buy it for my own company.
What I dislike most about Zend's policy is that after a year you can't even encode files anymore. I could live with a "no more updates" policy, but that is outrageous, certainly for that price.
Anyway, just my $0.02
PS: If the product is created by the same standards as PHPEd, of which I'm sure, it'll be great! 
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