Few suggestions (multiinstance, goto symbol, class dropdown) |
Re: Few suggestions (multiinstance, goto symbol, class dropd |
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As mentioned in the following topic: http://forum.nusphere.com/is-it-possible-to-open-multiple-windows-application-instan-t6948.html you may run multiple instances of PHPEd by specifying "--mi" (without quotes) command line parameter. |
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Thanks. That's perfect (the multiinsance).
I have the following question though. Are there any implications we have to watch about in this scenario? Can I have my main shortcut with the "--mi" switch and start the program only with it, or is there any difference if I start it without --mi the first time and the the other instances with --mi? Thanks. As to #1, even though Code Explorer works around the problem to some extent, it's missing the dynamic filtering feature that shrinks the list of items to only the ones that match the search item with every keystroke. |
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First instance of PHPEd may be started with or without "--mi" switch.
Second and subsequent instances of PHPEd should be run with "--mi" switch to allow multiple PHPEd instances at same time. It is safe to add "--mi" to PHPEd shortcut in case you always want be able to run multiple PHPEd instances. |
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Perhaps they will interfere in debugging. Don't be surprised if you press RUN with debugger in one instance and another will start stepping.
BTW, why do you need multiple instances at all??? |
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Because we often work with different projects/solutions at the same time.
When I work in Visual Studio I normally have 3 instances. One for current project version, one for old version and one VS-instance for testing and experiments. |
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Yes, it's quite normal these days to face the need to work on more than one project at the same time. There are multiple scenarios. I work on the main project and fix a bug in a module that need to be fixed quickly in 2-3 other projects, without closing the current project and 20 opened files. Another: I work on a project, but a different client calls for a small change in another project. Meanwhile I fix something that I need to fix in a 3rd project. Etc. etc.
I have another suggestion though. The Go To (line number) feature needs to be fixed. It should remember the last entered number, but currently it is intialized with the current line number when opened (Ctrl+G). This is very stupid as it is highly unlikely that I will want to open the GOTO Line dialog to jump to the same line the cursor is at . It is likely I'd want to jump to the line I had used the last time. Also, a way to navigate back and forth within the code through the history of cursor positions (non destructively) would be very welcome, as found in other IDEs. The current Browse Back/Forward functionality is awkward and unintuitive. As to writing in the forum instead of filing a bug (I suspect I will be blamed for that), this seems not to be a bug, moreover the forum is not high on messages-traffic at all, and if one dev takes just a quick look at it once per week, will be enough, instead of relying only on a bug tracking system to make the software better. Isn't that the purpose after all.. |
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Anything in the works about goto symbol at least?
The lack of such a feature is causing a major pain and obstacle for large projects. I have few acquaintances I was recommending phped to over the past years, but since they started to work on large projects, they decided to move away to the (free) competition that has this and other vital features. Opening the right file/class/function/whatever from the workspace tool window every time is an agony, even its search functionality is not even close because it only searches for the file and scrolls the current position. I've given up on the multirow tabbar . The resource-friendliness (though 7.0 is much heavier than 5.x) and the better debugger are not going to be able to tip the balance in favor to phped for long. Could we expect these in 8.0 which is by all signs expected to be released soon? |
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V8 (next version) will support Worksets and this is what will help you instantly switch between contexts. Meanwhile multiple instances, perhaps, the only option. Regarding goto symbol, do you mean Find Declaration? If so, just right click on symbol you want to go to, and select Find Declaration in the popup. As of tabs... well, V8 will offer you tab groups. I hope it's something much better than that. |
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Hi dmitri, thanks.
Yes, the multiinstances rectifies the "another-client-in-the-middle-of-session" problem. As to goto symbol, no, I mean when you want to go to a particular symbol (not necessarily present under your cursor, current file or even currently opened files) by knowing its name. It's widespread thingy that dramatically speeds up navigation - you open a little dialog with an input field and results-list below, start typing the class/function/method/constant etc. name, and while typing, the results-list refreshes with every keystroke, and when satisfied with the filter, you can open the file containing the typed/selected symbol. This is a thing that turned most of my acquaintances away to other IDEs. For very large projects this is the only effective way to open files with symbols whose names you know for editing. Tabs... tab groups is a nice addition, still not any better than being able to see at a glance all your open tabs/files. With tab groups you are not expanding the number of tabs visible at once, unless you make two groups one under another, this gives two rows of tabs, but shrinking both editors to half the height of the screen. What's more, more often than not we work on many files that are not a good subject to being separated logically in two tab groups. Many IDEs I've been trying support multiple rows tabbar and this by no doubt gives a dramatic improvement in navigation. In my opinion these are the two basic features that are missing from PHPed to call it perfect. Still, tab groups along with docking are a welcome feature for multimonitor setups. |
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I think you're wrong here telling that there only two missed features to make PhpED a perfect IDE. We have a very long list of such features and belive me -- the tabs is the least among them.
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Ok, my fault. I might have been a bit more intense in my thoughts when I was writing that post and overstated.
I thought these are just basic things that could prove to be enormous timesavers in everyday activity. The small things can make all the difference. |
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Few suggestions (multiinstance, goto symbol, class dropdown) |
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