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PhpED is very slow to load first time each day - why?


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All was well with Build 20027. It started up rather quickly. But it seems like every time I install a new version, in this case Build 20032, it take 40 seconds for PhpED to start up. That's how long the "Getting Started . . . " message stays on the screen. Why is this? Why is it so slow to run every time I install a new version? What is causing the delay? And what is it doing for all that 40 seconds time? Thank you.
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40sec is awfully slow. It's not something that PhpED would normally do. On a rather old h/w running Intel 3rd gen Ivy Bridge and SATA SSD -- startup time is about 5sec and does not depend on build number at all because it initializes the same components.
I can only suggest to check your system for consistency. May be its AV is outdated and too active, may be HDD is going to die, hard to say without seeing your PC metrics, but for sure 40sec is too much.

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Re: PhpED is very slow to load first time each day - why?


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The process/phase of 'Starting Up' differs differs from release to release. Task Manager shows disk access which made me simply move the nusphere folger outside ...AppData\Roaming and AppData\lLocal and modified registry settings. That made the difference by upgrading from Build 20035 to the latest 20038. Both releases are based on 64-bit.

My user directory on Win 8.1 is pretty stuffed and the first time the problem showed up in the past was after installing Pharo just for fun, which places the images (Smalltalk) in the user directories by default. Afterwards the 'Starting Up' took long.

Modifying firewall settings made no difference. Once I investigated the startup using ProcMon and that made made me uninstall the plug-ins for Google Explorer and Firefox. That helps but seems to have nothing to do with PhpEd directly, maybe that can slow down the various lookups during 'Starting Up' in the User area.

The part where the user area resides on Windows should not grow to large, because that slows down everything from system startup to anti-virus scan once the system booted and the user (me) logged in. So 'Starting Up is slow' seems to me from my experience more like a symptom.

In all other cases the 'Starting Up' Phase can differ from 5 seconds to 20 or more on a hard disk. I use a hybrid harddisk on a 12 year old still working laptop. At the moment 'Starting Up' cannot even be considered noticeable.

Nothing specific to PhpEd concerning this upgrade. Starting Up does not even show up anymore and the IDE requires almost no time to show up now.

What does PhpEd do? PhpEd checks lots of system settings for example and from time to time access the config settings very likely. Depending if the 'files' or blocks are in what cache I assume, it's really just a guess, the OS has to scan this special area and has to reload the pages from disk. This area is special and growing beyond 2 GB was a problem once and under Win 8.1 more than 4GB or even worse 8GB the slowdown hurts even while booting.

Mike

[quote="a_edwall"]All was well with Build 20027. It started up rather quickly. But it seems like every time I install a new version, in this case Build 20032, it take 40 seconds for PhpED to start up. That's how long the "Getting Started . . . " message stays on the screen. Why is this? Why is it so slow to run every time I install a new version? What is causing the delay? And what is it doing for all that 40 seconds time? Thank you.[/quote]
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