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Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2022 2:47 am |
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PHP 8.2 is not a concern atm, but 8.1 support is crucial.
Can I possibly have any beta to test/use at the moment? If yes, I'd happily prolong my subscription right now, not waiting for the final release.
Having some related bugs is totally OK ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 5:02 am |
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dmitri wrote: | I'm under impression I sent you the link. Duplicating now. |
Sorry, but I still don't see it in my mail nor on forum private messages. Can you please send it by forum private message maybe?
As promised, I've just prolonged my subscription (invoice 241398).
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 5:25 pm |
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Hi,
because of missing 8.1 support I also tried to use PhpStorm, and now I'd like to appeal to PhpED team:
if you stopped PhpED development because of lost competition with PhpStorm then you are absolutely wrong!
You can easily compete with the mess that is going on in PhpStorm, and your debugger or remote server support is incomparably better.
I run PHP projects in docker on virtual machine and need files synchronization that is not good enough in PhpStorm, and it even doesn't allow to map remote folder for debugger without downloading.
PhpStorm's debugger doesn't allow to change Execution point, and even cannot display property value on mouse hover, IDE window doesn't pop up on breakpoint and browser shows time-out.
It's even much more convenient to use TortoiseGit from PhpED than PhpStorm's git client.
Guys, you don't have enough problems to die, PhpED must live. Simplicity and great debugger is your niche. You don't need a huge amount of useless extensions like PhpStorm, since in any case more professional tools are usually used like DBeaver, TortoiseGit etc.
Please keep working on PhpED, you are great!
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Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2023 6:58 pm |
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shimasoft wrote: | Hi,
because of missing 8.1 support I also tried to use PhpStorm, and now I'd like to appeal to PhpED team:
if you stopped PhpED development because of lost competition with PhpStorm then you are absolutely wrong!
You can easily compete with the mess that is going on in PhpStorm, and your debugger or remote server support is incomparably better.
I run PHP projects in docker on virtual machine and need files synchronization that is not good enough in PhpStorm, and it even doesn't allow to map remote folder for debugger without downloading.
PhpStorm's debugger doesn't allow to change Execution point, and even cannot display property value on mouse hover, IDE window doesn't pop up on breakpoint and browser shows time-out.
It's even much more convenient to use TortoiseGit from PhpED than PhpStorm's git client.
Guys, you don't have enough problems to die, PhpED must live. Simplicity and great debugger is your niche. You don't need a huge amount of useless extensions like PhpStorm, since in any case more professional tools are usually used like DBeaver, TortoiseGit etc.
Please keep working on PhpED, you are great! |
There is no team behind PHPEd, just one developer. And due to too many alternative IDEs as well as XDebug they stopped active development of PHPEd. Just have no honesty to announce that publicly so that they could cash out as much as possible. That's the simple truth here.
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 12:42 pm |
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lubosdz wrote: |
There is no team behind PHPEd, just one developer. And due to too many alternative IDEs as well as XDebug they stopped active development of PHPEd |
...and you know this how? Are you working for NuSphere? Are in close relations with someone working at NuSphere?
All you said above is just a fake.
I'm not alone working here at NuSphere. project is not stopped and XDebug you mentioned is far behind from technology point of view, otherwise we'd have very little chances to exist last ~20 years after it was released.
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 2:53 pm |
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dmitri wrote: | lubosdz wrote: |
There is no team behind PHPEd, just one developer. And due to too many alternative IDEs as well as XDebug they stopped active development of PHPEd |
...and you know this how? Are you working for NuSphere? Are in close relations with someone working at NuSphere?
All you said above is just a fake.
I'm not alone working here at NuSphere. project is not stopped and XDebug you mentioned is far behind from technology point of view, otherwise we'd have very little chances to exist last ~20 years after it was released. |
Well, Dmitri, let's be honest here - what else can one think after no responses from nusphere and no major releases since last 1.5 year?
In spite of all those reported issues and suggested improvements ... nothing happened.
So it really looks like it's a dead end project or has some very serious existential issues. If so - why not announcement so people know what's to expect? Anything is better than silence.
If there are more developers - how many .. ? Would be nice to know more about developers and build up confidence into the company.
And if I am wrong here - do you have some good news when is PHP 8.1 support for debugger going out ? (released in 12/2021)
If not, then again - it's just a talk.
Also what do you mean by "XDebug you mentioned is far behind from technology point of view" - I would be interested in more details ..
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2023 5:48 pm |
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It's ok to have some opinion, nothing wrong with that, but what you said above does not look like an opinion, it's a very strong statement that sounds like you know the truth and just share it:
Quote: | There is no team behind PHPEd, just one developer. |
You can compare yourself:
Quote: | And due to too many alternative IDEs as well as XDebug they stopped active development of PHPEd |
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Quote: | it really looks like it's a dead |
That's the difference. First is nothing else but fake. Latter is an acceptable opinion, just an opinion based on observed performance with no real knowledge of facts behind the scene.
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